How Blu-Ray Won the Fight and Why It Probably Won't Matter

February 13th, 2008 | by Rob Enderle

Many retailers have been piling on what has been a long string of bad news for the HD DVD camp and announced they were going to stop selling HD DVD players. Most recently, Best Buy and Netflix indicated they would be dropping HD DVD. Then, one Blu-Ray customer figured out he had been screwed by the Blu-Ray side and started a class action suit against one of the major Blu-Ray companies, something that is likely to accelerate.

As we went into the 4th quarter of 07, Toshiba and the HD DVD camp was certain they had this wrapped up. Their player prices were well below the Blu-Ray offerings, they had picked up several new studios and Sony’s PS3 was looking more like an anchor on Sony’s future than a help to Blu-Ray. In addition, they seemed to believe that Time Warner was going to go exclusively HD DVD shortly after the end of the year and had planned a massive announcement with Microsoft for CES.

The word “surprised” seems to be an inadequate term to describe what happened to them in January while their executives were in route to CES and Warner came out in favor of Blu-Ray, turning what was expected to be a victory for HD DVD to a route. Let’s chat about overconfidence and what happened.

Nintendo 

With numbers showcasing that the PS3’s world wide sales went up sharply in the 3rd quarter there should be little doubt that much of this gain was due to extreme shortages of Nintendo’s Wii. The Wii had been on constraint for much of the year and Nintendo failed to bring on-line adequate manufacturing resources to meet demand, and the end result was that parents who wanted something for their kids were left with the Xbox 360 or the PS3. While both the Xbox and the PS3 seemed to benefit in the US, in Japan the Xbox underperforms Japanese sourced products sharply and it appears almost all of this demand went to the PS3 which turned in massive numbers according to Sony.

It was unlikely that parents in North America or Japan were going to buy their children two game systems and due to price advantages alone the Wii should have had much of this business, but you can’t buy what the stores didn’t have and premiums being paid for the few Wiis that did exist took the systems close to Sony prices which favored Sony.

The PS3 Advantage 

Currently, Sony is feeling its oats and claiming they will bypass the Xbox 360 in Europe and, according to them, they are now outselling the Xbox 360 there 3 to 1. Given this is a 4th quarter market and we are likely in the slowest period for Game system sales I’m not sure I would connect those dots yet myself, but there is no doubt that Sony’s product is doing much better. 

With the war all but decided it appears the Blu-Ray drive in the Sony is starting to become an advantage particularly given that the PS3 is currently the only affordable Blu-Ray offering that is likely to support the coming Blu-Ray 2.0 specification coming out early next year. So if you want a Blu-Ray product that won’t soon be obsolete you have to get an updatable product and that leaves you with the PS3 for the closest thing to a set-top box solution right now. 

But, overall, you can’t deny that PS3 sales were a huge advantage for the Sony camp as the year closed.

Toshiba: Overconfidence Helped Defeat 

Sony was between a rock and a hard place, if they lost the Blu-Ray fight the PS3 would have been collateral damage and the impact on Sony financially might have been terminal. This means that Sony, much like anyone fighting for their life, was willing to do almost anything to ensure they didn’t fail. 

Toshiba, on the other hand, was so confident they were winning they felt no need to really push hard in the 4th quarter and let prices actually drift up for their HD DVD players which started the quarter with sub-$100 sales for older products and sub $200 prices for newer products but ended the quarter with prices drifting well above $200.

One thing you learn about pricing is that it is easy to go down but the market will probably not move with you if you go up and this was a significant tactical mistake. Now, given how strongly the PS3 ramped I’m not sure that keeping the prices low would have changed this outcome but letting them drift up did make the Blu-Ray win more certain.

Why Time Warner Called the Fight 

Supporting two formats wasn’t doing anyone any good and the market was clearly signaling it was going to move to downloads long term and, particularly with the writer’s strike, Time Warner couldn’t wait 5 years. Blu-Ray movie sales stayed marginally ahead of HD DVD sales throughout most of the 4th quarter and the PS3 numbers clearly indicated there was a massively larger potential future opportunity for Blu-Ray. Add to this that Sony was likely willing to give Time Warner almost anything they wanted while Toshiba didn’t think they had to, and you get the recipe for the decision that Time Warner made. Though, I think it came too late.

Should You Buy a Blu-Ray Player? 

With Blu-Ray 2.0 on the horizon you are still better picking up a PS3 if you will use it for games and can live with the Blu-Ray library. If you can use a PC solution and because there are still a lot of HD DVD movies, I’d suggest one of the new super hybrid-drives. Gateway just brought out a PC with one and Addonics has one that I’ve been using and like (and it works with a laptop but not on an airplane). This is because there are still a lot of movies both out and coming which will be HD DVD only for awhile. 

Of course with the market moving towards downloads, if you have a high speed connection you may want to wait a bit and see what your cable , DSL or PC company is going to bring to market.

In the end the lesson here is don’t back a company up against the corner unless you are willing to do what it takes to deliver the killing blow and overconfidence isn’t the path to victory. Toshiba is clearly learning both lessons the hard way this year.


The End for Both 

With the early adopters of both HD DVD and Blu-Ray (at least those that don’t have a PS3) likely really upset about their choices right now. Both (except for PS3) are looking at premature obsolescence which, as I mentioned in the opening, is likely to lead to more legal action before we are done. And with Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, and virtually all of the movie studios now moving to downloads (along with folks like Netflix) it just seems like the market is going to move on to me. Right now, if you want to watch movies on a plane or in a car, you really can’t easily use Blu-Ray anyway (few laptops, none of them Apple laptops, have it as an option) and buying several copies of the same movie, on top of the Blu-Ray premium, just seems excessive to me. Now there is an alternative HD format entering the segment that addresses the portability issue and, clearly another format isn’t going to help folks choose. 

The real question in my mind is whether the folks like Apple will get this right first (the libraries are very limited) or the Cable companies will simply own this segment. Cable companies move slower but they subsidize the hardware which cuts down dramatically on the cost. I simply don’t see anything to suggest, including the PS3 sales numbers, that we are going to have enough Blu-Ray players in the market before downloads go mainstream and Blu-Ray will go the way of the Laser Disk as a result. Of course Blu-Ray could live on as a kind of wicked mini-lightsaber.

Seriously, if you look at this in-depth review of HD downloads, if the download side can get the content and people have the bandwidth, it truly is now good enough and far more convenient.


Post Your Comment...Comments

Tom on Feb 13th, 2008 at 6:42 PM:

Best Buy has not dropped HD DVD - their simply naming Blu Ray as their prefered HD player.

Jimmy on Feb 13th, 2008 at 7:08 PM:

I respectfully disagree with a lot of what you have said here.

You suggest is that Blu-ray had a "marginal" lead in disc sales in 2007. If you consider between 2 and 3 times as many discs to be marginally more then what do you consider to be substantially more? Even the discs that Warner released on both formats sold better on Blu-ray than on HD DVD.

You suggest that parents searching for a Wii purchased a PS3 instead. The market research I have seen simply do not support this. In fact the research I have seen shows that the XBox 360 Arcade edition that was $270 over the holidays was by far the biggest beneficiary of the Wii shortage.

Finally you suggest that HD Downloads are going to become mainstream somehow. Currently only about half of Americans have broadband to their homes. Of that number a very minuscule number have more than 3.0 mbps. Worse is that this is time-share bandwidth so if several of your neighbors are using it then you do not get all 3 mbps. The US infrastructure just cannot support wide acceptance of HD downloads. In fact if you look at most companies that are attempting to roll this out: ATT, Comcast, etc. All of them are talking about having it ready in "a few years".

On top of the issue of there not being enough bandwidth to support the HD downloads, there is the issue of people having to purchase another set-top box for their television. How do you propose to sell this to joe-six-pack?

"Hey Joe, we have this box that lets you rent movies for $5 a piece. You only get to watch the movie once for that price though. Oh yeah, one more thing, once you start watching the movie you have to finish watching it within 24 hours or lose it. And the box will cost you $300"

Joe, "Uhm, so what is the difference between that and the PPV system my cable company offers now? It sucks and we have had it for years. Is the picture quality better than upscaled DVDs?"

"Well no, actually it is not as good as upscaled DVDs and you have to subscribe to the $70 per month Internet package to use it reliably."

Joe, "Right, I will get back to you..."

Phil on Feb 13th, 2008 at 7:16 PM:

With the end of the format war, it seems to be popular for the media to invent or parrot the notion of a new format war between Blu-Ray and HD download. The simple fact is that there is no technology today, or in near future, which offers near HD quality downloads as a viable, cost effective, and responsive commercial service. The best current services can offer is 720p resolution, but at much lower quality encodes. Blu-Ray provides 50GB of data storage at much higher bandwidth than DVD or any current affordable dometic internet service, and we're beginning to see movies encoded to use an entire Blu-Ray disc, including uncompressed audio. Regardless of the technology involved....and it only takes a few hours of research for the so-called trade press to verify the technical limitations of download services... the press seem to be ignoring en-mass both the reasons people buy movies on physical media have more to do with impulse purchases, portability, sharability, and retention/collection, than with the desire for pay-per-view. Do your research, apply some reasoning, and come up with some sensible articles.
And, BTW, the HD-DVD did not fail because Toshiba raised the price of players in the critical purchase period before Christmas.. it failed because the only basis HD-DVD could compete was on price, and by LOWERING prices, HD-DVD alienated the very manufacturers on whom they were reliant to validate the format and drive the market. HD-DVD pricing was TOO LOW, to have ever won the war, as it invalidated th business cases of Toshiba, and their partners.

imaballa on Feb 13th, 2008 at 7:41 PM:

Hey, so HD download is going to be the future eh captain?
Will I actually own the download? Like hold it with my grubby little hands, put it up on my shelf, will I actually own it? So I will pay what like $10, $15 bucks for a movie in a downloadable form sitting on someone else's server, keep it on my DVR until I run out of space and delete it, and when I want to watch it again re-download it again,... err... hmmm sounds awfully like renting much like Netflix or Blockbuster with no late fees.

Do I really own the movie?

Did you know Blu-ray 2.0 allows you to download a 1GB portable version of the movie in MP4 format so you can put it on your PSP. Cool eh? Solves that portable problem you talk about.

James on Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:28 PM:

Tom, don't be so dense:

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/15717/bes...

What does that tell you that Best Buy will only "promote" Blu-ray? That they are phasing out HD DVD, they will not spend money on the product to promote it etc. Get a clue. And NetFlix dropped HD DVD alltogether.

HD DVD = dead man

Rob Enderle on Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:29 PM:

OK you don't "own" movies unless you are a studio, you license rights.

How many movies do you need to have on your shelf? I rent (netflix) 9.9 movies I watch and I never want to see them again, there are maybe 1 or 2 movies a year I want to watch more than once and, if I really thought about it, most of those I could probably rent. If a rental costs $4 and buying costs $20, you have to watch 5 times before you break even.

Downloads work best for rentals, you get them in about 30 seconds when things are working right if streaming, and if you want to watch them on the road you download and cache them.

So yes, its like Netflix, which is why Netflix is moving to downloads.

As far as downloading MP4, why buy the Blu-Ray first? Just download the format you want to watch. Save you a ton of time on transcoding.

James on Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:30 PM:

imaballa, you are pretty dumb too. Your arguement is that you won't physically own the movie? Duh, isn't that what happened to music too? Since when has there been an incline in CD sales? Not for a couple years. iTunes and online music downloads are winning, why wouldn't it happen for movies? Be a visionary, and don't hold onto what will not last forever.

imaballa on Feb 13th, 2008 at 9:42 PM:

@Rob,

Your speaking purely from personal experience. You might purchase 1-2 movies at the most a year, and rent 9.9 movies from netflix, but not everyone is like you.
In 2007 $16 billion in DVD consumer spending says so of DVD movie purchases. The sales of DVD have been one of the highest ever with a slight dip from $16.5 billion from 2006.
DVD rentals have held a $7 billion in consumer spending for several years now with no increase.

I myself purchase a decent number of movies, such as Spiderman series, 300, X-men, and Shrek to name a few(which it turns out are the top sellers of 2007). I just feel these are must own movies, I also rent from Netflix, and blockbuster when I don't want to wait from Netflix, and usually if I like the movie alot I would buy it. However, just like G4TV Attack of the show segment DVDuesdays, there are Movies many people consider Renters or buyers.
I would consider HD movie download to substitute my rentals, but I would never substitute digital downloads for actually physically owning the movie.
I'm an average white collar worker, Software Engineer, me and my co-workers talk about movies all the time, all family folks who purchase movies on a regular basis, we make up part of that populous that contribute to that $16 billion spendature.
There are many factors why digital downloads would never substitute, physical media purchase:
1) The technology for streaming is light years away; even using FIOS the HD content is still compressed not as good as HD movies on Blu-ray fully uncompressed 25GB movie. There are definite bandwidth issues especially the way America is setup right now.
2) DRM, if you want movies you can download to your DVR, then transfer them to a mediacard for portable use, how does that circumvent copyright issues? The logical answer would be the movies would be DVR locked.
3) There is a huge population that still purchases movies, more so then rent them. With Netflix you pay a flat monthly fee and rent movies, which in a way emulates how digital download would work semantically, you pay a flat fee averaging out to your usual purchase/rental cost and you can re-rent old movies if you want to re-watch it, but realistically thats not how it works in the world. Owners still purchase movies because they want to physically own them.

Ian Bell on Feb 13th, 2008 at 10:47 PM:

Here is how I see things happening:

Movie downloads will replace regular DVD movies, for the general consumer that really doesn't care about movie quality. Whether they watch it on their PC, or cownload it from their cable provider via VOD (which is already huge I might add), this will be their format of choice.

Blu-ray will be there for the true movie buffs, the trend setters and people that really help new technology take off.

Blu-ray won't be going anywhere, anytime soon.

Just my $.02 cents

andyx on Feb 14th, 2008 at 8:04 AM:

There was a time when Rob Enderle was proclaiming that HD-DVD is the WINNER! How the Mighty has fallen, I said at the time that Blu-Ray has the advantage having better studios supporting it. But Rob and HD-DVD fanboy Jeff even argued that content libraries does not matter and that stand-alone player sales matter most. WRONG!!! As I said then, what good do cheap players be when there's only few titles for it.

Can I say it Loud, I TOLD YOU SO!!! Jeff, Eat your words! HA HA HA

Stan on Feb 14th, 2008 at 9:41 AM:

To Andyx - Who's Jeff?

"Jeff, Eat your words! HA HA HA"

You moron.

TankerKevo on Feb 14th, 2008 at 10:54 AM:

Either way, PS3 owners win. Even in the outcome of digital downloads they win. We have already seen previews floating around the net of PlayTV in the UK. We know the PS3 can play Hi-Def downloaded content from the PS3 store. To me, it's only a matter of time before Sony either makes a client of their own to place on the PS3 to play downloaded movie content, or has a third party do it (think NetFlix).

The PS3 is now starting to showoff what Sony execs were saying 2 years ago before its release, and that is that it was designed to be future proof.

andyx on Feb 14th, 2008 at 12:06 PM:

Stan you're the Moron,
Read "Wal-Mart HD DVD: To Be or Not To Be?" Talkback April 27, 2007 and you'll know what it's all about.

Commenting without knowing the details makes you the MORON!

Stan on Feb 14th, 2008 at 1:23 PM:

You didn't answer my question Andy....who the hell is Jeff? Did you mean Rob?

andyx on Feb 14th, 2008 at 1:38 PM:

You did not read the web page, refer to the comments then you'll know who Jeff is. He's probably one of the most fanatic of HD-DVD fanboys. He's not Rob, I think.

Kerbe on Feb 14th, 2008 at 1:41 PM:

Now guys lets all play nice. Digital HD downloads sounds like a great idea. HD video content on the X360 looks awesome, not the same quality as a bluray however. Video downloads is great for rentals but not for those who collect. Anyone that collected vinyl records in their youth are probably still enjoying those records as collectors many years later. The problem with digial downloads is digital rights management (DRM). I remember reading about a music download service that went under and all ATRAC files with DRM were going to be useless after the service goes bye bye... remember the Connect Music store. I am sure if Universal kicks the bucket that my DVD of The Transformers will still work perfectly on my PS3 or any DVD player in my home. Bluray 2.0 giving consumers that ability to make a compressed copy of a movie to be used on other devices (like the PSP) is a great idea. My question is how is the DRM?

P.S.: Rob... can you please not compare the Wii to the other three systems. Though its a crowd favorite, the attach rate is less than stellar which puts the developers in a situation of not making any money on a top selling system. Nintendo seems to be the only one really celebrating the mega success of the Wii. Developers are more willing to put games on the X360 and even the PS3 to make money... ask Activision, ask Capcom, ask Namco, but dont ask Nintendo.

imaballa on Feb 14th, 2008 at 2:00 PM:

@Kerbe,

As I have mentioned in my 1st post, in Blu-ray 2.0 the compressed movie file is only 1GB you can put on PS3 to watch on the go. 1GB is probably your "Video On Demand" quality, however remember it still looks stellar on the PSP's 4.5" Screen. I don't think you will have too much DRM issues there.

Stan on Feb 14th, 2008 at 2:02 PM:

To Andy:

Ah...didn't catch that, or read all of the comments. Can I still call you a moron? :D

Stan on Feb 14th, 2008 at 2:03 PM:

Is there really an Xbox 360 shortage?

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/15749/mic...

I call B.S. here (posted on it too)

HD downloads on the Xbox 360 are still way to pricey, you don't really "own" them and the quality sucks.

andyx on Feb 14th, 2008 at 4:58 PM:

To Stan
Nope, a moron in our language is a kind of delicacy made from sticky rice, eaten as snack or dessert. ;D

Kerbe on Feb 14th, 2008 at 5:17 PM:

@imaballa

Thanks for the update which is a lot more detailed than your original post of "Did you know Blu-ray 2.0 allows you to download a 1GB portable version of the movie in MP4 format so you can put it on your PSP. Cool eh? Solves that portable problem you talk about." In that case, thats just Sony fluffing up the functionality of the PS3 and PSP and does nothing for the masses that may have an iPod or a laptop PC or some other portable media player. There goes your DRM my friend.

Stan on Feb 14th, 2008 at 8:42 PM:

Stan and Andy are now friend!

Yay!

Beers on me!

Greg Mahoney on Feb 14th, 2008 at 9:12 PM:

I have all the latest equipment Sony PS3, Toshiba HD A35, Very high speed internet connection, etc. I am happy to see Blu Ray winning. However, Joe Six-pack will not be downloading Hi-def movies any time soon....Mark my words "packaged media" is here to stay for a long time. You are misguided to believe the majority of people will all be downloading their Hi-Def content any time soon. Yes, you and I may be downloading some content to our media servers. Don't however underestimate the desire for the average person to own something physically tangible.

imaballa on Feb 14th, 2008 at 9:31 PM:

@Kerbe,

Yea, the PSP reads MP4 format so at first it was a pain when I realized my PSP wouldn't read Divix files like all the episodes of "Heroes", that was until I found a nifty little transcoding tool that converts divx to MP4 format and vice versa.
I don't know what video formats ipod will take but converting that 1GB "lite" version of the movie "300" MP4 into divix or wma would be a cinch.

I already have a nice little Blu-ray collection, with all the great deals going on all the time like Amazon likes to do blu-ray movies for $19 once in a while. Very tempting.

Aaron on Feb 15th, 2008 at 12:39 PM:

I am in agreement with the multitude of comments above that HD download is greatly lacking compared to physical media and that this article is bunk.

Just think about the bandwidth issues if tons of folks started using the internet to get QUALITY 1080P content! The internet would crawl to a halt. Maybe 15 years from now if we concentrate on more infrastructure improvement the net could handle massive 1080P content downloads...but by then everyone will have dozens of movies on Blu-ray.

DCB Rick on Feb 15th, 2008 at 2:48 PM:

Fascinating post Mr. Enderle. Rather provocative. Two questions then:

#1 - Does this mean you think the currently HD-DVD studios (Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks) should (Or perhaps will) forego delivering their content on Blu-Ray and focus instead on digital deliveries.

#2 That Microsoft will/should not put a Blu-Ray drive in a future version of the XBox 360?

I tend to believe, the Sony strategy of delivering content on hi-def packaged media AND as digital downloads seems more viable from a business perspective than focusing entirely on digital downloads. Particulary in the short to medium timeframe (5 years out).

Kevin Van on Feb 15th, 2008 at 3:37 PM:

I wonder if we don't have two boat anchors instead of one in our HD players. It seems like the claim to fame of Blu-Ray is the PS3.

Unless your TV is 60 inch and 1080p and you are sitting 2 feet away from the TV I just don't think HD gives that much. I did enjoy March of the Penguins in HD, but that's the only movie I've seen where it mattered and that didn't matter to the tunes of hundreds of dollars.

I think the main concern of the movie companies is that DVD's really AREN'T copy protected. Blu-Ray provides slightly better security in that regard.

From my viewpoint, I think the movie companies are trying to entice us away from DVD with a marginal improvement in picture quality. Let's get serious about the claimed sound improvements too... Unless you have dog hearing, you couldn't tell the difference between DVD and either HD format.


paul smith on Feb 18th, 2008 at 11:20 AM:

i think people are going to be really disapointed in download offerings. this article talks as if we are ready to go. perhaps you should speak to a few ISP's and see just how happy they will be with people downloading 10gbs per movie (and that compressed to a level that is not comprimised), not to mention the 'extras' and also the increased cost in additional harddrives and power they consume.

Bjorn on Feb 18th, 2008 at 11:49 AM:

Did this guy do any research before he wrote this? Half of it doesn't make sense and the other half is wrong. Where ever he got his sources, he should start looking some where else.

Will on Feb 18th, 2008 at 12:41 PM:

Bjorn, have any facts to back up your statement?

JVM on Feb 18th, 2008 at 10:40 PM:

I quite enjoyed your post on the format wars. Yours was one of the few I found that analyzed the demise of HD-DVD, instead of solely forecasting the future. I especially liked your argument about the Nintendo Wii. As much as insiders and tech aficionados may not want to believe it, what drives sales is the average consumer, generally clueless but looking for a good buy. Sony's brightest idea was using the average consumers in the video game market as a fulcrum for Blu-Ray sales. The average consumer is generally unsure of which direction to go (especially in a format war), so when they saw one item bundled with a complete game console, the advantage was obvious.
In fact, I would argue that the real clincher in the format war was definitely the PS3, because it had the lowest barrier to entry. If you looked at either format, you had steep requirements to get anything out of it - an HDTV, an HDMI cable, and the unit itself. Two of those units costed at least 800 to a thousand dollars. For any average consumer, the price was ridiculous. However, the PS3 doubled as a game console, and one which had multitudes of fans. They may not have had an HDTV, but it was okay, because the blu-ray player they were using also happened to be enjoyable without an HDTV, because of the gaming ability. Right there, one of the barriers to entry was lowered. Obviously, to get the full experience, upgrading to an HDTV was necessary, but not immediately. The Playstation 3 was also the cheapest blu-ray player around (much cheaper than a good HDTV), so it had a definite advantage.
Sony, of course, used this to its full advantage. It always touted the number of players, claiming it had its format in a million and a half homes. Of course, 1.4 million of those were PS3s. ( http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/06/20/ps...
And while the North American adoption of the ps3 may not have been huge, it was rather large in Europe and Japan, where the rival Xbox 360 was unpopular, and where the Wii was nowhere to be found, as you stated.
In fact, it this could be best illustrated by looking at the shifting allegiances of a very lucrative industry: Adult videos. Say what you want about the adult industry, it is a perfect litmus test for a format. In the beginning, Blu-Ray tried to adopt a family-friendly stance, and banned pornography from its film repertoire. The porn industry responded by going to HD-DVD. However, companies were bombarded with requests for HD adult content on the shiny new Blu-Ray player that they got when they bought their PS3. Since there was such a market for Blu-Ray pornography, and since Sony desperately needed a way to pull ahead of HD-DVD, a compromise was found, and adult films were made in Blu-Ray HD. The point here is that once an industry which cares very little about the technical advantage of HD media decides to adopt a format, it has become desired by the mainstream. And, since Sony had spent an arm and a leg getting Blu-Ray players into the PS3s and into homes, the momentum for mainstream demand rested solely in the camp of Blu-Ray. ( http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/0... I think that, while Time Warner's decision may have capitulated the change, the real underlying reason that the format war was won by Blu-Ray rested solely in the lowest barrier of entry that the PS3 represented.

Randy on Feb 19th, 2008 at 3:29 PM:

Real good thing about blu-ray. Benefit right now there is no way to broadcast in 1080p the bandwith is to large for the resolution and the 60 frames per seconds thats a lot of information and the really one of the only ways to watch a movie besides in movie theater to watch 1080p and it looks great! Downloads will probably be if not already are in 1080p but who groups around a computer and watches a movie usually its only one person maybe two who sits and watches a movie on a computer, but you could use your computer and run it to a tv (via hdmi). you run into a lot of computer format ratios. A lot of tv's don't agree to well with computer resolutions. In lamers term watching a seting up a Blu-ray playes is quick and easy and majority of the customers like plug-n-play put the dvd in and go with it and the pix is outstanding. Blu-ray is here to stay and eventhough were in this digital and download world. Blu-ray one make a lot of customers like simplicity happy. (Besides the software uprgrades to these players which that helps me out of being a TV Repairman and other home electronics). Thanks that was a great article!!!

Randy on Feb 19th, 2008 at 3:34 PM:

I had comments but got a e-mail to verify my e-mail I put a lot of good info in there I hope you can post it. The e-mail told me to go to this link and verify my e-mail this is the only place I see to put a e-mail in.

Marcel Schoen on Feb 21st, 2008 at 9:57 AM:

So according to Rob HD-Downloads will probably become the new mainstream.

Maybe Rob should be a bit more careful with his predictions.

Aug. 2005:
http://news.digitaltrends.com/talkback67.html

Dec. 2006:
http://news.digitaltrends.com/talkback234.html

Just saying...

ken on Feb 23rd, 2008 at 7:15 PM:

I just got a 1080p HDDVD player from Tesco last night for £179 with 2 HDDVD movies included (one of them the awesome looking '300') and a HDMI cable, all in the the box.

I am very happy with my purchase and it plays normal dvd's aswell (i can use the other side of the disc in a NORMAL DVD PLAYER TOO!) ... something you CANNOT do with bluray. and you cant get bluray for that price.

Once I can download movies (HD MOVIES) i will move to them permanently though. That is the future.

Nick on May 19th, 2008 at 9:22 AM:

I think that we (the commentaries) have spoken. I have downloaded movies and it sucks. I have T4 here at my home/office. It might be fast but there are limits to the movies and most of all, my server is the only place to store 5TB of HD movies. Then if it crashes I lost my money.

Downloads are great if you want to watch something like Friday, get stoned, and forget that you ever saw it. That way when your 24 hours of owning it are up you can feel good not knowing where it came from.

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